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4 года 5 мес. назад#34348от 3b-fly
3b-fly создал эту тему: Stug III price
Its a log time i have been here. It is not posible to read all new posts, so i am sorry if this was allready handled.

I have seen Stug card with armor 4.
When i bought it, it has armor 3 and price 30.
Is it an error?
It is Pz IV without move and fire and with kill zone for just three points less now.
I do not see any reason to pay Stug, except for nice model.

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4 года 5 мес. назад#34797от Константин
Константин ответил в теме Re: Stug III price
Stug has armor 3 and price 30.
Yes, it has stats like Pz IV because they have the same gun.

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4 года 5 мес. назад#34798от 3b-fly
3b-fly ответил в теме Re: Stug III price
So it should be cheaper.
It is just 3 points less against Pz-IV.
It is not enough due to all it looses against it.

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3 года 11 мес. назад#41282от 3b-fly
3b-fly ответил в теме Re: Stug III price
1) It looks like Stug III model is not Ausf.B, but Ausf.C of Ausf.D.
Ausf.B was the only one series which had hull side doors.

2) Pz IV vs. Stug III
PZ IV - accuracy on its hex 2
Stug III - accuracy on its hex 1

Stug has killing zone
Stug can not fire while moving

Just -3 pts does not look enough.

Why was self-propelled artillery developed?
It had more stabile gun mounting than tanks have, so the range increased and it was possible to use more effective aiming device.


I want to create my version of card (Ausf.C)

Accuracy: (1) 2 3 2 2 1
Price: 33

Does anybody have annother idea how to make Stug more realistic?

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3 года 11 мес. назад#41283от Константин
Константин ответил в теме Re: Stug III price
I think, it will make the imbalance with T-34 at distances of 300-600 m (2nd hex).
The difference is not so great and tank's turret also has the advantages, such as the shooting at moving targets.

I think, Your accuracy with a small increase in the intensity is better for modification with a long gun. For example, my stats for StuG III/IV with Stuk 40/L48 (KwK 40/L48, PaK 40):

(1)-3-2-2-1-1
(inf) 11-9-7
(art) 12-10-8
(v) 15-13-11
(av) 15-14-13
(lt) 14-13-12
(mt) 13-12-11
(ht) 12-11-10

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3 года 11 мес. назад#41284от 3b-fly
3b-fly ответил в теме Re: Stug III price

Константин пишет: I think, it will make the imbalance with T-34 at distances of 300-600 m (2nd hex).
The difference is not so great and tank's turret also has the advantages, such as the shooting at moving targets.

I think, Your accuracy with a small increase in the intensity is better for modification with a long gun. For example, my stats for StuG III/IV with Stuk 40/L48 (KwK 40/L48, PaK 40):

(1)-3-2-2-1-1
(inf) 11-9-7
(art) 12-10-8
(v) 15-13-11
(av) 15-14-13
(lt) 14-13-12
(mt) 13-12-11
(ht) 12-11-10


Yes, it will cause imbalance, but such was the reality. Even T-34 could not move in front of prepaired Stug-III and survive.

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